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Donald Pleasence and Françoise Dorléac in Roman Polanski’s Cul-de-sac

thank you

Date: 2007-01-30 07:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] larvatus.livejournal.com
As a Masshole turned Californicator, I attest to the ear-muffling effect of asshats.

Re: thank you

Date: 2007-01-30 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] secrethistoryx.livejournal.com
I agree, but if only the asshats of our town were as colorful as Donald Pleasance. I dream of moving to be near my old friends in Cambridge almost every day (there are no Park Slope/Williamsburg dreams for me)... but it seems I'm quite rooted here for now. And my armadillo skin helps when it comes to the he-who-talks-loudest-wins strategy out here -- it's only distressing when some of your closest comrades become those people.

the asshats of our town

Date: 2007-01-30 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] larvatus.livejournal.com
Oh, they are colorful all right. I admit an occasional twinge of nostalgia for their portrayals by Fred Rexer, regrettably displaced to a shoveling detail at his ranch in Texas. As for me, there is little to choose betwixt bullshit and horseshit.

Re: the asshats of our town

Date: 2007-01-30 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] secrethistoryx.livejournal.com
Fascinating, Cap'n. Re: Rexer.

Re: -shit relativity -- so, really, is horseshit deeper than bullshit? I couldn't quite fathom it all. I must learn to use the right term in the right circumstance.

the deeper pile of shit

Date: 2007-01-31 06:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] larvatus.livejournal.com
I think Gerald Cohen thinks that bullshit is more devious than horseshit. I think we better consult Fred about that. He has been practicing with both kinds.

the less deceived

Date: 2007-01-31 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] larvatus.livejournal.com
Michael,

There's no difference between horseshit and bullshit. Both are
self-expository terms used by the intellectually handicapped and
implicitly impotent in reference to efforts by more intelligent and
powerful individuals to baffle, misdirect and disinform them. Be-
cause users of the terms are revealing their inferiority by resorting
to profanity and cheap emotionalism any attempt to fool them is
almost always successful.

All the Best!

// - REXER - //

Re: the less deceived

Date: 2007-01-31 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] secrethistoryx.livejournal.com
Nice! Thank you for the clarification! I prefer the sound of "horseshit" myself because it's less overused, and wish that "bullcrap" didn't sound so weird.

Re: the less deceived

Date: 2007-01-31 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] larvatus.livejournal.com
Regrettably, I was imprinted with Harry Frankfurt’s lexicography at an impressionable stage. Thus in the instant matter, my diction needs must hew to Reinhold Aman, rather than Fred Rexer.

Re: the less deceived

Date: 2007-01-31 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] secrethistoryx.livejournal.com
Incidentally, if you can put yourself in the shoes of the non-Francophone reader for a moment, could you tell me if I should invest in the new translation (http://www.amazon.com/Flowers-Evil-Wesleyan-Poetry/dp/081956799X/sr=8-2/qid=1170275776/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/102-2267326-3169745?ie=UTF8&s=books) of Les Fleurs du Mal from Wesleyan? I have the old Richard Howard edition, battered with much affection, but I would prefer a better one.

Re: the less deceived

Date: 2007-02-01 01:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] larvatus.livejournal.com
The little I can see via the search function on Amazon, looks good for what it is. To pass along a recommendation by Alonzo Church, consult the original alongside this translation.

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